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10:05:57 AM HB98
10:17:15 AM Confirmation Hearing(s)|| Board of Fisheries
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10:35:28 AM Adjourn
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON FISHERIES                                                                            
                         April 4, 2013                                                                                          
                           10:05 a.m.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Paul Seaton, Chair                                                                                               
Representative Eric Feige                                                                                                       
Representative Lynn Gattis                                                                                                      
Representative Bob Herron                                                                                                       
Representative Craig Johnson                                                                                                    
Representative Kurt Olson                                                                                                       
Representative Jonathan Kreiss-Tomkins                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 98                                                                                                               
"An Act relating to escapement thresholds and escapement goals                                                                  
for certain salmon stocks."                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CONFIRMATION HEARING(S):                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Board of Fisheries                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Tom Kluberton - Talkeetna                                                                                                  
     Claude Vincent Webster - King Salmon                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION(S) ADVANCED                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 98                                                                                                                   
SHORT TITLE: SALMON ESCAPEMENT GOALS                                                                                            
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) NEUMAN                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
02/01/13       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/01/13       (H)       FSH, RES                                                                                               
04/04/13       (H)       FSH AT 10:00 AM CAPITOL 120                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN                                                                                                           
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Introduced HB 98, as sponsor.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
BRUCE KNOWLES, Chairman                                                                                                         
Matanuska-Susitna Borough Fish and Wildlife Commission                                                                          
Willow, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 98.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
TOM KLUBERTON, Appointee                                                                                                        
Alaska Board of Fisheries (BOF)                                                                                                 
Talkeetna, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:   Spoke as  appointee to the Alaska  Board of                                                             
Fisheries (BOF).                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
GERALD MCCUNE, Lobbyist                                                                                                         
Cordova District Fishermen United (CDFU)                                                                                        
Cordova, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified with support  for the appointment                                                             
of Tom Kluberton to the BOF.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN MCCOMBS                                                                                                                    
Ninilchik, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified  with opposition  for HB  98, and                                                             
with cautious  approval of the  appointment of Tom  Kluberton and                                                               
Claude Vincent Webster to the BOF.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
WES HUMBYRD                                                                                                                     
Homer, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified with support  for the appointment                                                             
of Claude Vincent Webster to the BOF.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
FRITZ JOHNSON                                                                                                                   
Dillingham, Alaska                                                                                                              
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified with support  for the appointment                                                             
of Tom Kluberton and Claude Vincent Webster to the BOF.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
PAUL SHADURA, President                                                                                                         
Kenai Peninsula Fishermen's Association                                                                                         
Soldotna, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified with support  for the appointment                                                             
of Tom Kluberton and Claude Vincent Webster to the BOF.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MEGAN SMITH                                                                                                                     
Kenai, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified with support  for the appointment                                                             
of Tom Kluberton and Claude Vincent Webster to the BOF.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DR. ROLAND MAW                                                                                                                  
Kasilof, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified with support  for the appointment                                                             
of Tom Kluberton and Claude Vincent Webster to the BOF.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CLAUDE VINCENT WEBSTER, Appointee                                                                                               
Alaska Board of Fisheries (BOF)                                                                                                 
King Salmon, Alaska                                                                                                             
POSITION STATEMENT:   Spoke as  appointee to the Alaska  Board of                                                             
Fisheries (BOF).                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
NORMAN VAN VACTOR, President                                                                                                    
Bristol Bay Economic Development Corporation (BBEDC)                                                                            
Dillingham, Alaska                                                                                                              
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified with support  for the appointment                                                             
of Tom Kluberton and Claude Vincent Webster to the BOF.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
H. ROBIN SAMUELSEN JR., Member                                                                                                  
Bristol Bay Economic Development Corporation (BBEDC)                                                                            
Dillingham, Alaska                                                                                                              
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified with support  for the appointment                                                             
of Tom Kluberton and Claude Vincent Webster to the BOF.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
GERALD MCCUNE, Lobbyist                                                                                                         
Cordova District Fishermen United (CDFU)                                                                                        
Cordova, Alaska                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified with support  for the appointment                                                             
of Claude Vincent Webster to the BOF.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
RICKY GEASE, Executive Director                                                                                                 
Kenai River Sportfishing Association                                                                                            
Kenai, Alaska                                                                                                                   
POSITION STATEMENT:   Testified in opposition  to the appointment                                                             
of Claude Vincent Webster to the BOF.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:05:19 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  PAUL   SEATON  called  the  House   Special  Committee  on                                                             
Fisheries meeting to order at 10:05  a.m.  Present at the call to                                                               
order  Representatives Seaton,  Kreiss-Tomkins, Herron,  Johnson,                                                               
and  Feige;  Representatives  Gattis  and Olson  arrived  as  the                                                               
meeting was in progress.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                 HB 98-SALMON ESCAPEMENT GOALS                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:05:57 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON announced that the  first order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO. 98, "An  Act relating to escapement thresholds and                                                               
escapement goals for certain salmon stocks."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:07:13 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN,  Alaska State  Legislature, said HB  98 is                                                               
to address the lack of  salmon returns throughout Alaskan waters.                                                               
Every  region  has  issues  and   the  bill  directs  the  Alaska                                                               
Department  of  Fish  &  Game (ADF&G)  to  prioritize  stocks  of                                                               
concern.   Further, it  directs the Board  of Fisheries  (BOF) to                                                               
adopt  in  regulation  specific management  objectives  for  each                                                               
identified  stock of  concern.   The department,  in consultation                                                               
with the BOF, would set  the management objective for that stock.                                                               
HB  98 stipulates  that the  objective must  include a  sustained                                                               
escapement threshold (SET) and an  optimal escapement goal (OEG).                                                               
An escapement  bar would be set  for specific areas as  well as a                                                               
sustainable escapement threshold.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:14:09 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
BRUCE  KNOWLES,  Chairman,  Matanuska-Susitna  Borough  Fish  and                                                               
Wildlife Commission, stated  support for HB 98  and reported that                                                               
currently there are 11 stocks  of concern, and the possibility of                                                               
six  more   becoming  eligible  in   2013  according   to  ADF&G.                                                               
Particular  management is  needed to  ensure a  higher escapement                                                               
goal to  protect these stocks.   The current escapement  goals do                                                               
not meet the  needs of the mixed stock returns  in many areas, he                                                               
opined,  as not  enough adults  of  certain species  are able  to                                                               
return to the  spawning ground sanctuaries.  He  pointed out that                                                               
an SET has yet to be established  on any stream in Alaska, but it                                                               
is the point at which salmon will  cease to populate an area.  He                                                               
stressed  the need  for the  department to  have this  managerial                                                               
tool as an option.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:16:36 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NEUMAN  said concerns have been  expressed for the                                                               
optimal  escapement  goals  because of  the  allocative  factors;                                                               
however, the allocation will be handled by the BOF.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON announced that HB 98 would be held.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
[The committee heard comments on HB 98 later in the meeting.]                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
^CONFIRMATION HEARING(S)                                                                                                        
^Board of Fisheries                                                                                                             
                    CONFIRMATION HEARING(S)                                                                                 
                       Board of Fisheries                                                                                   
                 [Contains discussion of HB 98]                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:17:15 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEATON announced  that the  committee would  now turn  its                                                               
attention to  the confirmation hearings  for the  appointments to                                                               
the Board of Fisheries.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:17:33 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
TOM  KLUBERTON,   Appointee,  Board  of  Fisheries   (BOF),  said                                                               
introduction to the BOF process began  for him as a member of the                                                               
Mat-Su  Borough Assembly  working to  reinstate the  Mayor's Blue                                                               
Ribbon Sportsman  Committee.  As  the de facto chairman,  he lead                                                               
the committee through  the board process to have  the Susitna and                                                               
Yentna River sockeye  salmon listed as a stock  of yield concern;                                                               
2008.    Following  that  experience  he  followed  a  number  of                                                               
requests to  accept a  nomination to  the BOF.   The term  he has                                                               
served is currently  coming to a close and, he  said, serving for                                                               
a second  cycle should prove  to be more productive;  building on                                                               
the educational experience  of the first term.   Finally, he said                                                               
he  has  received  many  inquiries  and  substantial  support  to                                                               
continue service.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:20:52 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
GERALD  MCCUNE,  Lobbyist,   Cordova  District  Fishermen  United                                                               
(CDFU),  stated  support  for Tom  Kluberton's  appointment,  and                                                               
cited the  letter of  support contained  in the  committee packet                                                               
from CDFU.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:21:47 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
JOHN  MCCOMBS voiced  opposition to  HB 98,  and stated  cautious                                                               
approval  for  the  appointments  of  Tom  Kluberton  and  Claude                                                               
Vincent  Webster to  the  BOF.   He  opined  that  the plans  the                                                               
appointees have configured  to restrict the drift  net fleet will                                                               
harm the  fishery and the local  economy.  He indicated  that the                                                               
state  has  funded  the  promotion   of  quality  Alaskan  salmon                                                               
products  and   restricting  the  fishery  is   a  "cruel  hoax."                                                               
Further, he reported that Ninilchik  has not had a representative                                                               
from  the area  on the  BOF  for 30  years and  neither of  these                                                               
appointments will rectify  the void.  The Cook  Inlet and Bristol                                                               
Bay fisheries  are both  unique to  each other.   The  2014 board                                                               
cycle will be addressing concerns  from the Ninilchik area and he                                                               
suggested the meeting be held in Soldotna.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:23:29 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
WES HUMBYRD  stated support for  the retention of  Claude Vincent                                                               
Webster  on the  BOF.   He opined  that the  appointee basis  his                                                               
comments  and   decisions  on  scientific  data,   not  political                                                               
interests.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:25:08 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
FRITZ  JOHNSON  expressed  support  for the  appointment  of  Tom                                                               
Kluberton and Claude Vincent Webster to  the BOF.  As a long-time                                                               
commercial fisherman  in Bristol  Bay and a  frequent participant                                                               
at BOF proceedings, he said  it's important that Bristol Bay have                                                               
an  effective  voice  in  board   deliberations.    He  finished,                                                               
paraphrasing  from a  prepared  statement,  which read  [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     I haven't  always agreed  with Mr.  Webster's positions                                                                    
     on Bristol Bay issues, but  I do have confidence in his                                                                    
     understanding  of  the  Board's  statewide  mandate  to                                                                    
     manage commercial, sport  and subsistence fisheries for                                                                    
     sustainability,  and his  ability  to  provide a  broad                                                                    
     understanding of  Bristol Bay  issues to the  Board and                                                                    
     public.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:26:20 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
PAUL SHADURA, President,  Kenai Peninsula Fishermen's Association                                                               
(KPFA), stated  support for both appointees,  paraphrasing from a                                                               
prepared statement, which read [original punctuation provided]:                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Our  organization  has   been  representing  commercial                                                                    
     fishermen within the waters of Cook Inlet since 1954.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     At present, our  members represent primarily commercial                                                                    
     setnet fisher families; although  we also have members,                                                                    
     who   represent   the    processing   industry,   drift                                                                    
     fisheries, supplies and the general public.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     The KPFA Board of  Directors voted unanimously on March                                                                    
     29,  2013 to  support Governor  Parnell's nominees  for                                                                    
     vacancies on the Alaska Board of Fisheries.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     We have  worked with  Vince Webster, Tom  Kluberton and                                                                    
     Reed Morisky and find that  all three are approachable,                                                                    
     respectful  and concerned  about the  sustainability of                                                                    
     our   State's  fisheries   resources,  this   objective                                                                    
     happens to  be KPFA's mission statement,  "Ensuring the                                                                    
     Sustainability of Our Fishery Resources".                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Individually they  expend the  extra effort;  to listen                                                                    
     to  stakeholders;  to  understand complex  science;  to                                                                    
     strive   for   a   "balance"   of   opportunities   for                                                                    
     traditional harvesters.  A feat  that requires not only                                                                    
     a  concern for  conservation, but  also to  maintain an                                                                    
     abundant  yield   of  fisheries  stocks  so   that  all                                                                    
     citizens can appreciate our State's resources.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:28:23 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEGAN  SMITH  expressed  support   for  the  appointment  of  Tom                                                               
Kluberton and Claude Vincent Webster,  and said she has seen both                                                               
gentlemen in action  and found them to  be personable, concerned,                                                               
and approachable.   Additionally,  they appear  to be  devoted to                                                               
the  public   process,  resistant   to  special   interest  group                                                               
pressures, and  dedicated to the  conservation of  the resources.                                                               
As  a  new  face  at   recent  board  meetings,  she  said  equal                                                               
consideration was given to her opinion by these board members.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:29:57 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DR. ROLAND MAW stated support for both appointees to the BOF.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:30:56 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CLAUDE  VINCENT WEBSTER,  Appointee,  Alaska  Board of  Fisheries                                                               
(BOF),  recounted his  active interest  in the  fishing community                                                               
where  he has  served  on  the local  advisory  committee for  15                                                               
years.   He said he has  been approached by a  number of interest                                                               
groups requesting  that he accept  the nomination to  continue on                                                               
the board.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:31:57 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
NORMAN VAN  VACTOR, President,  Bristol Bay  Economic Development                                                               
Corporation (BBEDC),  stated support  for the appointment  of Tom                                                               
Kluberton  and  Claude  Vincent  Webster,  and  said  it  is  not                                                               
possible to please  everyone with every decision.   He cited that                                                               
Mr.  Webster comes  from  a region  that  represents perhaps  the                                                               
largest and  most diverse fishery  in Alaska, and opined  that at                                                               
board  meetings  he  is thoughtful,  knowledgeable,  and  a  good                                                               
listener.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:32:51 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
H. ROBIN SAMUELSEN JR., Member,  Bristol Bay Economic Development                                                               
Corporation (BBEDC),  expressed support  for both  candidates and                                                               
elaborated that Mr.  Webster is now a seasoned  board member, and                                                               
said his talents are clearly  evident through the fairness he has                                                               
demonstrated for  the diverse fisheries,  as well as  concern for                                                               
the resources.  He said:                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     I don't  agree with my  wife always, and I  don't agree                                                                    
     with  Vince  always, but  he's  fair  to the  fishermen                                                                    
     whether  you're  a  sport, subsistence,  or  commercial                                                                    
     [user].                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:34:06 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
GERALD  MCCUNE,  Lobbyist,  Cordova  District  Fishermen  United,                                                               
stated  support for  Claude Vincent  Webster and  said he  brings                                                               
valuable experience to the board.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:34:27 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
RICKY  GEASE,   Executive  Director,  Kenai   River  Sportfishing                                                               
Association, stated  opposition to  the re-appointment  of Claude                                                               
Vincent Webster  to the BOF,  due to certain process  issues that                                                               
have occurred during  his tenure, and said the  chairman would be                                                               
receiving  written  opposition  for inclusion  in  the  committee                                                               
packet.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:34:56 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HERRON made a motion  to advance the confirmations                                                               
of Tom Kluberton  and Claude Vincent Webster to  the Alaska Board                                                               
of  Fisheries, to  the joint  session for  consideration.   There                                                               
being no objection, the confirmations were advanced.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEATON  reminded members that signing  the report regarding                                                               
appointments  to the  boards and  commissions in  no way  reflect                                                               
individual members'  approval or  disapproval of  the appointees,                                                               
and  that  the  nominations  are merely  forwarded  to  the  full                                                               
legislature for confirmation or rejection.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:35:28 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Special  Committee on  Fisheries meeting  was adjourned  at 10:35                                                               
a.m.                                                                                                                            

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB0098A.pdf HFSH 4/4/2013 10:00:00 AM
HB 98
HB 98 Sponsor Statement.pdf HFSH 4/4/2013 10:00:00 AM
HB 98
HB 98 Background Material 5AAC 39.222.pdf HFSH 4/4/2013 10:00:00 AM
HB 98
PVOA_HB 98_Comments.pdf HFSH 4/4/2013 10:00:00 AM
HB 98
UFA OPPOSE HB 98 Escapement Goals 4 1 2013 (3).pdf HFSH 4/4/2013 10:00:00 AM
HB 98
Fisheries - Kluberton Bio.pdf HFSH 4/4/2013 10:00:00 AM
Board of Fish
Fisheries - Webster Bio.pdf HFSH 4/4/2013 10:00:00 AM
Board of Fish
Webster Kluberton Confirmation Comments.pdf HFSH 4/4/2013 10:00:00 AM
Board of Fish
Sitka Tribe Resolution in Opposition to Reappointments.pdf HFSH 4/4/2013 10:00:00 AM
Board of Fish
PVOA Webster_Kluberton BOF_Support_2013.pdf HFSH 4/4/2013 10:00:00 AM
Board of Fish
Letter of Support Kluberton - by Karl Johnstone.pdf HFSH 4/4/2013 10:00:00 AM
Board of Fish
Ken Federico, South Central Alaska Dipnetters Association .pdf HFSH 4/4/2013 10:00:00 AM
Board of Fish
Attachment to letter of Ken Federico - rc075_board_member_webster_proposal249 (1).pdf HFSH 4/4/2013 10:00:00 AM
Board of Fish
Attachement 2 to letter of Ken Federico.pdf HFSH 4/4/2013 10:00:00 AM
Board of Fish
BBEDC letter - Webster.pdf HFSH 4/4/2013 10:00:00 AM
Board of Fish
MSB Sportfish ISER Report.pdf HFSH 4/4/2013 10:00:00 AM
HB 98
Where Have the Fish Gone Presentation (UPDATED-NEW) (1).pdf HFSH 4/4/2013 10:00:00 AM
HB 98
POM Robert_Clark 4-3-2013.pdf HFSH 4/4/2013 10:00:00 AM
Board of Fish
HB098-DFG-CO-03-29-13.pdf HFSH 4/4/2013 10:00:00 AM
HB 98
04022013BOFConfirm.pdf HFSH 4/4/2013 10:00:00 AM
Board of Fish
04032013HB98.pdf HFSH 4/4/2013 10:00:00 AM
HB 98
04.04.2013 Testimony House Special Committee on Fisheries BOF Appointments.pdf HFSH 4/4/2013 10:00:00 AM
board of fish
BOF Appointments Webster and Klubertoncomm,040113.pdf HFSH 4/4/2013 10:00:00 AM
Board of Fish
ATA Comment HB 98 Escapement Goals, 040113.pdf HFSH 4/4/2013 10:00:00 AM
HB 98
04.03.13 2013 UCITF CIFF Defending Escapement Goal.pdf HFSH 4/4/2013 10:00:00 AM
Board of Fish